Re Heartland I figure they are more than aware of how rigged the system is, judging by their guerilla tactics. How exactly do they get themselves heard in such a rigged system? What game to you have to play to get that publicity?
Well-researched and full of thoughtful insights. I hope Brad is wrong regarding NZ Loyal which seems, to me, to have the ability to gather up most of the wayward refugees of the Wellington Occupation and move on to make an impact also with normies. If they are wise, NZ Loyal supporters will study what Brad has written and do all they can to avoid the pitfalls for them that he predicts.
You are not wrong. To me with Liz's face poking out of everything to do with NZLoyal it's worse than Ronald Reagan on a very large poster welcoming me to America in the 80s. It's egotistical, she is poorly on any topic that you want to bring up with her, she accuses you of anything that comes into her mind which is not a lot but nevertheless it gets thrown back out. There are 3 list candidates including Liz no doubt at #1 & a bunch of MP candidates who will do *all* the actual work for the 3 non-standing list MPs if they manage to get to 5%. Nice lark.
And as for giving us all a voice during covid, bullshit, I tried to get her to cover my run in Dunedin last local elections being quite prepared to state my vaccine opposition in an environment where we were being told that "anti-vaxxers" were trying to sneak in & she ignored me initially but when that became too annoying for her she told me that she was too busy and for me to contact Farmer James. Well I did that too and he just blanked me. Another 140 votes or so (maybe less) and I would have been on Dunedin Council right now.
I was also blanked by MSM & banned by Student Radio One (the 2nd attempt at it, they also had a go in 2019). Exactly the same policy.
About the lack of a constitution from NZ Loyal, isn't it possible that, being late to the party, they put everything into their electioneering and that a very good constitution is something they will come up with at a later point?
Sure, but after learning what I've learnt; the first thing I do now is read their constitution to see what they are bound to, not what they say they are going to do.
Good read and feed back and agreed with alot of it. As much as we would like to get some small partys in it would of been good if they had chosen better people to join with or work together. 🤔 Alot to consider
You've got it hopelessly wrong this time, Brad. I won't say, "fuck you" but I will say that in the case of NZ Loyal...if you can't say something good, don't say anything. Your opinion is no better than the trolls on RCR or VFF. WTF, mate: can't you give a party with right values a helping hand? They're obviously not "minnows" and they are the ONLY party that directly addresses the core issue of membership in the organisations that are behind the controlled demolition of civilisation: UN, WEF, WHO. They don't have a constitution? There are at least a dozen draft constitutions waiting in the wings out there, the one that is adopted and ratified will reflect the level of consciousness of the people. As for what Loyal hasn't done, or issues they haven't addressed, IMHO they have focused on things that will make a difference long after I'm gone, that my kids will benefit from. I'm sorry that you have chosen to write them off...but you're not much older than my kids and you'll have to live with the system that the uniparty will continue to support, the offshore masters that would have us all on UBI in 15-minute cities, being surveilled by 5G and eating bugs and 3D-printed meat. I actively support the return of the refinery--I was a consultant on the refinery expansion in 1981--but I think you've done a disservice to your readers by attempting to steer them away from the only choice on the menu with integrity.
Bill you haven't even read the entire article, I only released it a few minutes ago. Read it again and then I'll address your relevant points. Better yet, digest all the content including the hyperlinks and the videos, then come back to me.
Bullshit. I read the entire article and I don't need your hyperlinks to understand what you have said. Address the issues I raised, don't try to throw bulldust into my eyes.
To claim that I should refrain from saying anything if I can't say anything good is the type of thing a blind optimist would subscribe to. The type that would suppress free speech in the form of critical analysis just to avoid shame. Who does that? Our opposition.
Actually, they're not the only party addressing that. Advance NZ supporters claimed that too and it wasn't true. All they did was take votes from Conservatives and classical liberals who could see and then deregistered the party once they were done. I'm not saying that's what's happening here, in fact, I don't think that. However, being the only party to be registered with no constitution is baffling. Especially if they are for what you say they are.
If you don't have a constitution, then you have nothing in writing that binds them to what they say. I'll reserve judgement until I see that. Until then, you're just over-reacting. I invite you to read all of the why you shouldn't vote for articles again so you can gain some perspective. I am certainly not writing of this party, those are your words.
I just did the job I committed myself to, which is to help people pay attention.
So you drop my comment off the edge because you don't want to deal with it. Grow up, Brad. Get serious. As I wrote, I admire what you've done at Marsden Point, but you're out of your depth in this political discussion if you can't engage with a constructive response.
Seems to me that NZLoyal has some good members but only 3 on the List. That seems a con job to me. You'll do all the work and if the party gets to 5% you will be represented by an unimpressive Liz & 2 others (I don't really know who they are)
Re Heartland I figure they are more than aware of how rigged the system is, judging by their guerilla tactics. How exactly do they get themselves heard in such a rigged system? What game to you have to play to get that publicity?
I just subscribed btw. And got a recommendation for Bernard Fucking Hickey. What are you, mainstream?
Certainly not. I keep an eye on Hickey to learn their perspective on economics.
Well-researched and full of thoughtful insights. I hope Brad is wrong regarding NZ Loyal which seems, to me, to have the ability to gather up most of the wayward refugees of the Wellington Occupation and move on to make an impact also with normies. If they are wise, NZ Loyal supporters will study what Brad has written and do all they can to avoid the pitfalls for them that he predicts.
Thanks for the kind words Mike, I hope I am wrong.
You are not wrong. To me with Liz's face poking out of everything to do with NZLoyal it's worse than Ronald Reagan on a very large poster welcoming me to America in the 80s. It's egotistical, she is poorly on any topic that you want to bring up with her, she accuses you of anything that comes into her mind which is not a lot but nevertheless it gets thrown back out. There are 3 list candidates including Liz no doubt at #1 & a bunch of MP candidates who will do *all* the actual work for the 3 non-standing list MPs if they manage to get to 5%. Nice lark.
And as for giving us all a voice during covid, bullshit, I tried to get her to cover my run in Dunedin last local elections being quite prepared to state my vaccine opposition in an environment where we were being told that "anti-vaxxers" were trying to sneak in & she ignored me initially but when that became too annoying for her she told me that she was too busy and for me to contact Farmer James. Well I did that too and he just blanked me. Another 140 votes or so (maybe less) and I would have been on Dunedin Council right now.
I was also blanked by MSM & banned by Student Radio One (the 2nd attempt at it, they also had a go in 2019). Exactly the same policy.
She's fake.
About the lack of a constitution from NZ Loyal, isn't it possible that, being late to the party, they put everything into their electioneering and that a very good constitution is something they will come up with at a later point?
Sure, but after learning what I've learnt; the first thing I do now is read their constitution to see what they are bound to, not what they say they are going to do.
Good read and feed back and agreed with alot of it. As much as we would like to get some small partys in it would of been good if they had chosen better people to join with or work together. 🤔 Alot to consider
You've got it hopelessly wrong this time, Brad. I won't say, "fuck you" but I will say that in the case of NZ Loyal...if you can't say something good, don't say anything. Your opinion is no better than the trolls on RCR or VFF. WTF, mate: can't you give a party with right values a helping hand? They're obviously not "minnows" and they are the ONLY party that directly addresses the core issue of membership in the organisations that are behind the controlled demolition of civilisation: UN, WEF, WHO. They don't have a constitution? There are at least a dozen draft constitutions waiting in the wings out there, the one that is adopted and ratified will reflect the level of consciousness of the people. As for what Loyal hasn't done, or issues they haven't addressed, IMHO they have focused on things that will make a difference long after I'm gone, that my kids will benefit from. I'm sorry that you have chosen to write them off...but you're not much older than my kids and you'll have to live with the system that the uniparty will continue to support, the offshore masters that would have us all on UBI in 15-minute cities, being surveilled by 5G and eating bugs and 3D-printed meat. I actively support the return of the refinery--I was a consultant on the refinery expansion in 1981--but I think you've done a disservice to your readers by attempting to steer them away from the only choice on the menu with integrity.
Bill you haven't even read the entire article, I only released it a few minutes ago. Read it again and then I'll address your relevant points. Better yet, digest all the content including the hyperlinks and the videos, then come back to me.
Bullshit. I read the entire article and I don't need your hyperlinks to understand what you have said. Address the issues I raised, don't try to throw bulldust into my eyes.
Ok I'll respond,
To claim that I should refrain from saying anything if I can't say anything good is the type of thing a blind optimist would subscribe to. The type that would suppress free speech in the form of critical analysis just to avoid shame. Who does that? Our opposition.
Actually, they're not the only party addressing that. Advance NZ supporters claimed that too and it wasn't true. All they did was take votes from Conservatives and classical liberals who could see and then deregistered the party once they were done. I'm not saying that's what's happening here, in fact, I don't think that. However, being the only party to be registered with no constitution is baffling. Especially if they are for what you say they are.
If you don't have a constitution, then you have nothing in writing that binds them to what they say. I'll reserve judgement until I see that. Until then, you're just over-reacting. I invite you to read all of the why you shouldn't vote for articles again so you can gain some perspective. I am certainly not writing of this party, those are your words.
I just did the job I committed myself to, which is to help people pay attention.
So you drop my comment off the edge because you don't want to deal with it. Grow up, Brad. Get serious. As I wrote, I admire what you've done at Marsden Point, but you're out of your depth in this political discussion if you can't engage with a constructive response.
What are you talking about? My response is above.
Seems to me that NZLoyal has some good members but only 3 on the List. That seems a con job to me. You'll do all the work and if the party gets to 5% you will be represented by an unimpressive Liz & 2 others (I don't really know who they are)